"Your powers are weak old man"

TheRandomMenace · Jedi Knight Joined: Mar 30, 2004 Posts: 1886

I wonder if Anakin/Vader realizes he's no spring chicken anymore either when he says this...

JediKnightPasJoDacle · Jedi Knight Joined: Mar 31, 2004 Posts: 1223

No, he still thinks he's a summer bee. But the fight they have(when compared to Episode III) is pathetic.

jasconsolojediknight · Youngling Joined: Jan 30, 2006 Posts: 922

I heard some where GL wanted the fights to be diffrent in the first 3 compared to the last 3. He wanted the 4,5,6 fightsto be more noble and 1,2,3 fights sceens to be more excititng. So i heard

TheRandomMenace · Jedi Knight Joined: Mar 30, 2004 Posts: 1886

Yeah, or movie technology was just lame back then, hence the fights being lame... and he's just using his "stylized" justification as a cop out.

Krash · Jedi Knight Joined: Mar 20, 2004 Posts: 3495

GL has said that the ANH battle was supposed to be rather tame. Obi-Wan was a much older jedi and Vader's broke down body/cybernetics were actually more restrictive then helpful. It also helps when you consider the age of the actors involved and limited fighting choreograhy at the time.

I think Vader was simply trash talking with Obi-Wan. His arrogance about the superiority of his armor coming out in his banter with Obi-Wan. A good response from Obi-Wan (if GL could anticipate how ROTS would be like) would have been:

Obi-Wan: "Oh yeah, let me get the high ground again and we'll try that ((mocking tone)) Don't underestimate my power ((/mocking)) thing one more time. Ah... crispy?"

JediKnightPasJoDacle · Jedi Knight Joined: Mar 31, 2004 Posts: 1223

LOL, "crispy".

Coyote · Jedi Knight Joined: Aug 15, 2004 Posts: 416

Too bad Ben didn't call him Anakin instead of Darth.....that would gotten to Vader good.

TheRandomMenace · Jedi Knight Joined: Mar 30, 2004 Posts: 1886

I like the dueling portion of the Episode III game...

Ben: "I should have left you on Tatooine!"

And he could have added insult to injury: "...little slave boy!"

Mion · Youngling Joined: Jan 16, 2006 Posts: 33

Well don't forget that as far as the fight in ANH goes, GL was trying to show that the lightsaber is a high energy weapon and takes great strength to use. Hence a rather boring fight sequence. Only later did they start getting away from that idea, and used one handed attacks and such. Not to mention that Anakin's fighting style changed after becoming Vader. His guard is mainly centered now to not only counter his suits physical limitations, but also to protect his life support controls on his chest. This style of saber fighting is heavy to look at to say the least. As for Kenobi... give the guy a break! He's not exactly a youngster anymore, I'm suprised he didn't need viagra just to get his saber up!

JediKnightPasJoDacle · Jedi Knight Joined: Mar 31, 2004 Posts: 1223

Mion wrote:

As for Kenobi... give the guy a break! He's not exactly a youngster anymore,

Yoda didn't seem to have a problem with the age thing... Wink

jasconsolojediknight · Youngling Joined: Jan 30, 2006 Posts: 922

All im going to say is when i reach 50-60 years old like Kenobi i hope i can still be acting like that.

TheRandomMenace · Jedi Knight Joined: Mar 30, 2004 Posts: 1886

Yeah, age didn't seem to slow down Palpatine or Dooku (over 80 in real life during AOTC and ROTS) either...

Krash · Jedi Knight Joined: Mar 20, 2004 Posts: 3495

TheRandomMenace wrote:

Yeah, or movie technology was just lame back then, hence the fights being lame... and he's just using his "stylized" justification as a cop out.

I wouldn't call it a "cop out" because (from strictly a film-making view) fencing and swordsmanship in movies wasn't that common until recently.

Take for example Bob Anderson, look at the early part of his career, swordfighting in movies wasn't that big a deal until around the time AFTER Star Wars came out. Later on, this guy trained Bandaras for Zorro, Vigo for LOTR, and PLAYED Darth Vader in ESB (which everyone argees was the best of the OT) This guy is considered a legend in the field, and most of his work was post-ANH.

Nowadays (and partially because of SW) you get movies all the time that feature and to some degree showcase swordfighting, so over the years the degree of technical skill had to constatntly be reved up.

anavrin0901 · Jedi Knight Joined: Dec 23, 2004 Posts: 795

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and PLAYED Darth Vader in ESB (which everyone argees was the best of the OT)

who is Everyone? I never agreed to that nor did a handful of people here that I know ESB is not their fav?

just giving you a hard time but seriously you did preach to me once about not handing down general opinions like that Laughing

Krash · Jedi Knight Joined: Mar 20, 2004 Posts: 3495

anavrin0901 wrote:

you did preach to me once about not handing down general opinions like that Laughing

Difference between generalizing a personal point of view and summarizing a majority opinion from a number of other "good conversation" (not "debates" Wink

) on the subject. But I see your point...my bad.

On other boards/discussions, ESB most of the time edges out the ANH and ROTJ saber fights in popularity. My personal opinion is that ANH comes in 2nd because kids get all nostalgic over it being the 1st SW movie.